From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Wed May 18 10:04:44 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA08415 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 10:04:43 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA17050 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 10:11:06 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA08315; Wed, 18 May 1994 10:02:26 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA04121; Wed, 18 May 94 10:04:45 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Wed May 18 10:04:44 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpermsp.cup.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA04080; Wed, 18 May 94 10:04:39 pdt Received: from telford.nsa.hp.com by hpermsp.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA241730418; Wed, 18 May 1994 10:00:19 -0700 Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu by telford.nsa.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.9/16.2) id AA1195518929; Wed, 18 May 1994 10:01:37 -0700 Received: from london.chem.duke.edu by duke.cs.duke.edu (5.65/3.9G/4.1.3) id AA13420; Wed, 18 May 94 12:56:35 -0400 Received: from ult1.chem.duke.edu by london.chem.duke.edu (5.64/1.19LP/4.1.1) id AA12665; Wed, 18 May 94 12:56:34 -0400 Received: by ult1.chem.duke.edu (8.6.8.1/2.12L/4.1) id NAA11074; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:00:13 -0400 From: clochmul@chem.duke.edu (C. H. Lochmuller) Message-Id: <199405181700.NAA11074@ult1.chem.duke.edu> Subject: Call Dole today To: firearms-politics@hpermsp.cup.hp.com (firearms-politics) Date: Wed, 18 May 94 13:00:13 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL2] Status: RO A major distributor and then others I personally know have been told that if Bob Dole get enough calls indicating that the people are opposed to the gun ban, they will filibuster forever. Call him and politely tell him/staffer that you oppose the Feinstein and the schumer gun bans. 202-224-6521 CHL -- From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Wed May 18 12:54:25 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA22903 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:54:24 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17515 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:00:47 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA24777; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:52:06 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA08847; Wed, 18 May 94 12:54:17 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Wed May 18 12:54:16 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpcuoa.sv.itc.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA08804; Wed, 18 May 94 12:54:09 pdt Received: from APHRODITE.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU by hpcuoa.sv.itc.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA171170661; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:51:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199405181951.AA171170661@hpcuoa.sv.itc.hp.com> To: firearms-politics In-Reply-To: clochmul@chem.duke.edu's message of Wed, 18 May 94 13:00:13 EDT <199405181700.NAA11074@ult1.chem.duke.edu> Subject: Re: Call Dole today Date: Wed, 18 May 94 15:47:32 EDT From: Karl Kleinpaste Source-Info: Sender is really karl@APHRODITE.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU Status: RO From: clochmul@chem.duke.edu (C. H. Lochmuller) Date: Wed, 18 May 94 13:00:13 EDT Call [Dole's office] and politely tell him/staffer I finally got through a couple minutes ago after the Nth try -- heavy on the busy signals. Took about 30 seconds, just to say I'm opposed to the ban, heard he was thinking of leading a filibuster, and I would support it. Staffer said "I'll be sure to mark it down" and that was that. Can anyone name specific senators worth calling, to ask that they support Dole in a filibuster? I will happily spend an hour or three throwing a few long distance $$$ at the problem...for me, it's just a matter of not really knowing who the best targets for support are. From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Wed May 18 12:57:07 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA23070 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:57:06 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17518 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:03:30 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA25432; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:54:48 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA08975; Wed, 18 May 94 12:57:04 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Wed May 18 12:57:03 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpermsp.cup.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA08934; Wed, 18 May 94 12:56:57 pdt Received: from telford.nsa.hp.com by hpermsp.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA279040756; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:52:37 -0700 Received: from daisy.uoregon.edu by telford.nsa.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.9/16.2) id AA1303729268; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:53:56 -0700 Received: from OREGON.UOREGON.EDU by OREGON.UOREGON.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #5364) id <01HCHGUPFWR88ZE4ID@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:48:11 PDT Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 12:48:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe St Sauver Subject: Dole's telephone answerer reports receiving over 1000 calls already... To: firearms-politics@hpermsp.cup.hp.com Message-Id: <01HCHGUPFWRA8ZE4ID@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"firearms-politics@cup.hp.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: RO If you haven't called Dole yet, please do so. Highlight the fact that the Senator needs to exhibit some leadership to fillibuster the crime bill once it comes out of committee if the final version still contains the odious Schumer/Feinstein gun control language... Emphasize that the bill actually affects many commonly owned guns, not just 19 guns... They'll try to do the, "The senator needs the cooperation of at least fourty senators to be able to fillibuster..." -- and that's true. Emphasize that if the Senator wants to keep a national *leadership* position, he's going to need to be willing to twist some arms when the tough votes come down.... Of course, if he did the right thing and had fillibustered the measure when it first came up in the Senate, he wouldn't be in this tough spot now, now would he? Remember: Dole rolled over on us already once ... it is time that he be encouraged to show a little spine for a change. His number: 202-224-6521 Regards, and let them hear from you... Joe St Sauver (joe@oregon.uoregon.edu) Disclaimer: All opinions solely my own. From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Wed May 18 13:38:53 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA25345 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:38:51 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17695 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:45:15 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA29602; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:36:34 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA09955; Wed, 18 May 94 13:38:49 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Wed May 18 13:38:48 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpermsp.cup.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA09914; Wed, 18 May 94 13:38:28 pdt Received: from telford.nsa.hp.com by hpermsp.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA287313246; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:34:07 -0700 Received: from as.arizona.edu (astro.as.arizona.edu) by telford.nsa.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.9/16.2) id AA1345131754; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:35:22 -0700 Received: from hydrus.as.arizona.edu by as.arizona.edu (4.1/1.2) id AA24589; Wed, 18 May 94 13:30:14 MST Received: by hydrus.as.arizona.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA15165; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:30:11 +0700 Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 13:30:11 +0700 From: swest@as.arizona.edu (Steve West) Message-Id: <9405182030.AA15165@hydrus.as.arizona.edu> To: firearms-politics@hpermsp.cup.hp.com Subject: Re: Call Dole today X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 563 Status: RO > I finally got through a couple minutes ago after the Nth try -- heavy > on the busy signals. Took about 30 seconds, just to say I'm opposed > to the ban, heard he was thinking of leading a filibuster, and I would > support it. Staffer said "I'll be sure to mark it down" and that was > that. I called too, and the staffer said that Dole was NOT soliciting for public input as the rumors suggest. He marked my vote down, and when I asked for a FAX number so I could send more info, he hung up on me. He sounded very irritated (maybe just overload?). swest From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Thu May 19 05:33:53 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA03040 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 05:33:53 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA19536 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 05:40:24 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA13789; Thu, 19 May 1994 05:31:35 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA01889; Thu, 19 May 94 05:33:31 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Thu May 19 05:33:29 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpcuoa.sv.itc.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA01836; Thu, 19 May 94 05:30:19 pdt Received: from ns1.rutgers.edu by hpcuoa.sv.itc.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA140070221; Thu, 19 May 1994 05:23:41 -0700 Received: from alpha.Xerox.COM by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA02988; Thu, 19 May 94 08:18:29 EDT Received: from DeltaDawn.wbst147.xerox.xns by alpha.xerox.com via XNS id <14597(8)>; Thu, 19 May 1994 05:18:08 PDT X-Ns-Transport-Id: 0000AA008A7E71133192 Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 05:17:55 PDT From: "DUS.WBST845@Xerox.com".wbst845@xerox.com Subject: Senator Dole9s Office To: firearms-politics@ns1.rutgers.edu Cc: firearms-politics@ns1.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <"19-May-94 8:17:55 EDT".*.Dusty_Kramer.Wbst845@Xerox.com> Status: RO Freedom Team, Well, I've been trying to get through to Senator Dole's office in Washington for the last two days. Haven't made it yet. I either get a busy signal or his VMAX telling me it's full. Is this a good sign? Regards, Dusty Kramer DUS.WBST845@Xerox.com From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Thu May 19 12:25:12 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA11028 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:25:12 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA20463 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:31:42 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA26106; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:22:50 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA10552; Thu, 19 May 94 12:24:43 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Thu May 19 12:24:40 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpermsp.cup.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA10472; Thu, 19 May 94 12:24:24 pdt Received: from telford.nsa.hp.com by hpermsp.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA272745202; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:20:02 -0700 Received: from ns1.rutgers.edu by telford.nsa.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.9/16.2) id AA2299148173; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:21:17 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.mcimail.com by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA25200; Thu, 19 May 94 15:16:01 EDT Received: by gatekeeper.mcimail.com (5.65/fma-120691); id AA29534; Thu, 19 May 94 14:16:23 -0500 Received: from mcimail.com by MCIGATEWAY.MCIMail.com id aa23878; 19 May 94 19:06 GMT Date: Thu, 19 May 94 14:11 EST From: Peter Nesbitt <0005111312@mcimail.com> To: ca-firearms To: firearms-politics Subject: Bob Dole wants to fillibuster Message-Id: <83940519191138/0005111312NA4EM@mcimail.com> Status: RO While talking with Gary Moore this morning, he said that Bob Dole wants to fillibuster the Crime Bill, but only if he can get enough support from Americans who want this to happen. This is the first I've heard of a fillibuster, but my head has been elsewhere this week. Should we be calling Dole's office and encouraging this? PDN From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Thu May 19 14:08:43 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA19539 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 14:08:42 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA20902 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 14:15:17 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA07550; Thu, 19 May 1994 14:06:24 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA12120; Thu, 19 May 94 14:07:54 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Thu May 19 14:07:53 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpermsp.cup.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA12077; Thu, 19 May 94 14:07:45 pdt Received: from telford.nsa.hp.com by hpermsp.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA291371399; Thu, 19 May 1994 14:03:20 -0700 Received: from xap.xyplex.com by telford.nsa.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.9/16.2) id AA2394154370; Thu, 19 May 1994 14:04:34 -0700 Received: from gryphon.xyplex.com by xap.xyplex.com id ; Thu, 19 May 94 16:44:19 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.2 Message-Id: <9405191701.AA53076@gryphon.Xap> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 17:01:53 +0000 From: Bob Stewart To: firearms-politics@hpermsp.cup.hp.com Subject: Re: Bob Dole wants to fillibuster Status: RO > While talking with Gary Moore this morning, he said that Bob > Dole wants to fillibuster the Crime Bill, but only if he can get enough > support from Americans who want this to happen. > > This is the first I've heard of a fillibuster, but my head has > been elsewhere this week. > > Should we be calling Dole's office and encouraging this? This topic is well-developed on the other firearms politics list. Dole's office says that is an untrue rumor and has become snippy with callers. Many people continue to call, and the line seems permanently busy. Bob From firearms-alert-owner Fri May 20 08:22:19 1994 Received: from localhost (chan@localhost) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) id IAA26326 for firearms-alert-outgoing; Fri, 20 May 1994 08:21:23 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA26320 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 08:21:22 -0700 Received: from hound.edaca.ingr.com (hound.dazixca.ingr.com [129.135.106.43]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA25881 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 08:21:11 -0700 Received: by hound.edaca.ingr.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05237; Fri, 20 May 94 08:19:20 PDT From: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Message-Id: <9405201519.AA05237@hound.edaca.ingr.com> Subject: DOLE Legislation (fwd) To: firearms-alert@shell.portal.com (Firearms Alert), rkba-dems@netcom.com (Democrats For The Second Amendment), rkba-alert@mainstream.com (RKBA ALERT) Date: Fri, 20 May 94 8:19:19 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 06.00.01.12 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: firearms-alert-owner@shell.portal.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO This is being forwarded from the new "firearms-politics" mailing list. Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away, Ray F. Ciurej wrote: >->From fap-approval@world.std.com Fri May 20 08:14:01 1994 >->Origin: ssd >->Date: Fri, 20 May 94 09:09:38 CDT >->From: ciurej@comm.mot.com (Ray F. Ciurej) >->Message-Id: <9405201409.AA05810@mira> >->To: fap@world.std.com >->Subject: DOLE Legislation >->Sender: fap-approval@world.std.com >->Precedence: bulk >->Reply-To: fap@world.std.com >-> >-> >->Folks, >-> >->This is a forward from the Illinois State Rifle Assn. >-> >-> >->This is a refreshing change! >-> >->--- Forwarded Message --- >-> >-> #: 591756 S15/Gun Politics/SRA [OUTDOORF] >-> 19-May-94 05:31:25 >-> Sb: #590241-#CALL SENATOR DOLE NOW! >-> Fm: Greg Fasolt, PA 73124,1571 >-> To: Kevin Walker/ISRA/IL 72070,3436 (X) >-> >->From: CITIZENS COMMITTEE for CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS >-> >->URGENT: >-> >->Senator Bob Dole is reported to be introducing legislation today, 19 May 1994, >->whic would overturn all gun bans against semi-automatic firearms. >->Details were not available at the time this message was drafted. >-> >->He is seeking your support on this issue. >-> >->Call him at 1-202-224-6521 as soon as possible >-> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >->Pass this on to 10 friends, ask them to each tell 10 friends.. >-> >->Thanks! >-> -- Observe Memorial Day! Be patriotic! Display the flag! Participate in and/or attend the observance activities in your locale. Contact your local American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) and/or AMVETS (American Veterans) post for additional information. ************************************************************ * Ron Phillips crphilli@ingr.com * * Senior Customer Application Engineer * * Intergraph Electronics * * 381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 * * Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 * ************************************************************ From firearms-alert-owner Fri May 20 09:19:08 1994 Received: from localhost (chan@localhost) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) id JAA29319 for firearms-alert-outgoing; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:18:08 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA29312 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:18:06 -0700 Received: from hound.edaca.ingr.com (hound.dazixca.ingr.com [129.135.106.43]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA00942 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:17:43 -0700 Received: by hound.edaca.ingr.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06077; Fri, 20 May 94 09:14:50 PDT From: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Message-Id: <9405201614.AA06077@hound.edaca.ingr.com> Subject: Re: DOLE Legislation (fwd) To: steinweg@nosc.mil (Gary Steinweg) Date: Fri, 20 May 94 9:14:50 PDT Cc: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com, firearms-alert@shell.portal.com, rkba-dems@netcom.com, rkba-alert@mainstream.com In-Reply-To: <9405201606.AA15992@cod>; from "Gary Steinweg" at May 20, 94 9:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 06.00.01.12 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: firearms-alert-owner@shell.portal.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away, Gary Steinweg wrote: >->Does anyone have Bob Dole's exact mailing address? Senator Robert Dole (KS-R) U.S. Capitol Room S-230 Washington, DC 20510 (202) 224-3135 -- Observe Memorial Day! Be patriotic! Display the flag! Participate in and/or attend the observance activities in your locale. Contact your local American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) and/or AMVETS (American Veterans) post for additional information. ************************************************************ * Ron Phillips crphilli@ingr.com * * Senior Customer Application Engineer * * Intergraph Electronics * * 381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 * * Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 * ************************************************************ From firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Fri May 20 09:33:32 1994 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA00415 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:33:31 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA24050 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:40:14 -0700 Received: from hpda.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA21793; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:31:13 -0700 Received: by hpda.cup.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA01519; Fri, 20 May 94 09:33:35 pdt Errors-To: firearms-politics-errors@cup.hp.com Sender: Precedence: bulk X-Info: Accepted by firearms-politics distribution list at Fri May 20 09:33:34 PDT 1994 X-Info: Submissions to firearms-politics@cup.hp.com X-Info: Change requests to firearms-politics-request@cup.hp.com Received: from hpermsp.cup.hp.com by hpda.cup.hp.com with SMTP (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20+OMrelay) id AA01478; Fri, 20 May 94 09:33:28 pdt Received: from telford.nsa.hp.com by hpermsp.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.11G/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA236321343; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:29:05 -0700 Received: from ns1.rutgers.edu by telford.nsa.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.9/16.2) id AA0232258784; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:30:24 -0700 Received: from Sun.COM by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA05214; Fri, 20 May 94 12:25:21 EDT Received: from EBay.Sun.COM (female.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA14031; Fri, 20 May 94 09:25:14 PDT Received: from sniper.EBay.Sun.COM by EBay.Sun.COM (4.1(1/24/94)/SMI-4.1) id AA18772; Fri, 20 May 94 09:25:13 PDT Received: by sniper.EBay.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA21203; Fri, 20 May 1994 09:25:34 +0800 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 09:25:34 +0800 From: Bruce.Frost@ebay.sun.com (Bruce Frost) Message-Id: <9405201625.AA21203@sniper.EBay.Sun.COM> To: ca-firearms@shell.portal.com, firearms-politics@ns1.rutgers.edu, 0005111312@mcimail.com Subject: Re: Bob Dole wants to fillibuster X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 831 Status: RO HECK YES!!! Lets bring this thing to it's knee's. Bob Doles # is 202 224 6521 Please call and get your freinds to call. Bruce > From ca-firearms-owner@shell.portal.com Thu May 19 12:50 PDT 1994 > To: ca-firearms > To: firearms-politics > Subject: Bob Dole wants to fillibuster > Sender: ca-firearms-owner@shell.portal.com > Precedence: bulk > Content-Type: text > Content-Length: 337 > X-Lines: 10 > > While talking with Gary Moore this morning, he said that Bob Dole > wants to fillibuster the Crime Bill, but only if he can get enough support > from Americans who want this to happen. > > This is the first I've heard of a fillibuster, but my head has > been elsewhere this week. > > Should we be calling Dole's office and encouraging this? > > PDN > From firearms-alert-owner Fri May 20 10:13:42 1994 Received: from localhost (chan@localhost) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) id KAA03142 for firearms-alert-outgoing; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:12:28 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA03136 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:12:26 -0700 Received: from igor.tamri.com (igor.tamri.com [192.65.214.6]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA06173 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:12:25 -0700 Received: by igor.tamri.com (931110.SGI/911001.SGI) for firearms-alert@shell.portal.com id AA14452; Fri, 20 May 94 10:11:07 -0700 From: donb@tamri.com (Don Baldwin) Message-Id: <9405201711.AA14452@igor.tamri.com> To: firearms-alert@shell.portal.com, rkba-dems@netcom.com, rkba-a@igor.tamri.com Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 10:11:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 860 Sender: firearms-alert-owner@shell.portal.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO >Senator Bob Dole is reported to be introducing legislation today, 19 May 1994, >whic would overturn all gun bans against semi-automatic firearms. >Details were not available at the time this message was drafted. > >He is seeking your support on this issue. > >Call him at 1-202-224-6521 as soon as possible Heh heh. I'm home sick today and just called this number but it was busy. I wonder why... :) There is an alternate number, 1-202-224-3135. PLEASE call now!!!!!!!! Don ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Klingons do not allow themselves to be probed!" - Worf, Star Trek TNG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don Baldwin - Software Engineer - e-mail to: donb@tamri.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From firearms-alert-owner Fri May 20 11:41:20 1994 Received: from localhost (chan@localhost) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) id LAA08148 for firearms-alert-outgoing; Fri, 20 May 1994 11:40:23 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA08140 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 11:40:20 -0700 Received: from Sun.COM (Sun.COM [192.9.9.1]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA15557 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 11:40:20 -0700 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA15482; Fri, 20 May 94 11:39:00 PDT Received: from smokeymtn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05930; Fri, 20 May 94 11:39:04 PDT Received: by smokeymtn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26693; Fri, 20 May 1994 11:37:20 +0800 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 11:37:20 +0800 From: Ed.Turner@Eng.Sun.COM (Edward Turner) Message-Id: <9405201837.AA26693@smokeymtn.Eng.Sun.COM> To: firearms-alert@shell.portal.com, rkba-dems@netcom.com, rkba-alert@mainstream.com, crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com Subject: Re: DOLE Legislation (fwd) X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 3186 Sender: firearms-alert-owner@shell.portal.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO I just got through to Dole's office. The staffer I talked to said said Dole was *not* introducing any such legislation. He said they weren't in session today and that there were no plans to introduce anything like this. The staffer seemed surprised at my call. It seemed to be the first he'd heard of this. I got through on 1-202-224-3135. The other number has been constantly busy since early this morning --- maybe it's off the hook. Anyway, I took the opportunity to ask Dole to filibuster the Crime Bill if it contained the firearms bans. Ed > From firearms-alert-owner@shell.portal.com Fri May 20 08:25 PDT 1994 > Subject: DOLE Legislation (fwd) > To: firearms-alert@shell.portal.com (Firearms Alert), > rkba-dems@netcom.com (Democrats For The Second Amendment), > rkba-alert@mainstream.com (RKBA ALERT) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 06.00.01.12 (2.3 PL11)] > Sender: firearms-alert-owner@shell.portal.com > Content-Type: text > Content-Length: 2054 > X-Lines: 65 > > This is being forwarded from the new "firearms-politics" > mailing list. > > > Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away, Ray F. Ciurej wrote: > >->From fap-approval@world.std.com Fri May 20 08:14:01 1994 > >->Origin: ssd > >->Date: Fri, 20 May 94 09:09:38 CDT > >->From: ciurej@comm.mot.com (Ray F. Ciurej) > >->Message-Id: <9405201409.AA05810@mira> > >->To: fap@world.std.com > >->Subject: DOLE Legislation > >->Sender: fap-approval@world.std.com > >->Precedence: bulk > >->Reply-To: fap@world.std.com > >-> > >-> > >->Folks, > >-> > >->This is a forward from the Illinois State Rifle Assn. > >-> > >-> > >->This is a refreshing change! > >-> > >->--- Forwarded Message --- > >-> > >-> #: 591756 S15/Gun Politics/SRA [OUTDOORF] > >-> 19-May-94 05:31:25 > >-> Sb: #590241-#CALL SENATOR DOLE NOW! > >-> Fm: Greg Fasolt, PA 73124,1571 > >-> To: Kevin Walker/ISRA/IL 72070,3436 (X) > >-> > >->From: CITIZENS COMMITTEE for CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS > >-> > >->URGENT: > >-> > >->Senator Bob Dole is reported to be introducing legislation today, 19 May 1994, > >->whic would overturn all gun bans against semi-automatic firearms. > >->Details were not available at the time this message was drafted. > >-> > >->He is seeking your support on this issue. > >-> > >->Call him at 1-202-224-6521 as soon as possible > >-> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >->Pass this on to 10 friends, ask them to each tell 10 friends.. > >-> > >->Thanks! > >-> > > > -- > Observe Memorial Day! Be patriotic! Display the flag! > Participate in and/or attend the observance activities in > your locale. Contact your local American Legion, Veterans > of Foreign Wars (VFW) and/or AMVETS (American Veterans) post > for additional information. > > > ************************************************************ > * Ron Phillips crphilli@ingr.com * > * Senior Customer Application Engineer * > * Intergraph Electronics * > * 381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 * > * Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 * > ************************************************************ > From owner-libernet@Dartmouth.EDU Sat May 21 03:10:23 1994 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA03314 for ; Sat, 21 May 1994 03:10:20 -0700 Received: from dartvax.dartmouth.edu (dartvax.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.4]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA18822; Sat, 21 May 1994 03:10:13 -0700 Received: by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (8.6.8.1+DND/4.5HUB) id EAA12591; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:00:19 -0400 Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (8.6.8.1+DND/4.5HUB) id EAA12587; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:00:16 -0400 Received: by coos.dartmouth.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15262; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:00:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 04:00:05 -0400 Message-Id: <9405210800.AA15262@coos.dartmouth.edu> Subject: Libernet Digest V85 #11 Errors-To: owner-libernet@Dartmouth.EDU Sender: owner-libernet@Dartmouth.EDU From: libernet@Dartmouth.EDU To: libernet@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: libernet@Dartmouth.EDU Status: RO Date: Sat, 21 May 94 04:00:02 EDT From: Barry Fagin Reply-To: libernet-d@coos.dartmouth.edu Subject: Libernet Digest V85 #11 To: libernet@dartmouth.edu X-Mailing-List: libernet@dartmouth.edu Libernet Digest Sat, 21 May 94 Volume 85: Issue 11 Today's Topics: Circumventing the major media. leonard (j.) knoll FEDERAL: Conference Committee List Jeff Chan FW: HOT FLASH: Dole Filibuster Fritz Sands Fwd: MISC> NSA Chief Counsel ... 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You can also send mail to libernet-request@dartmouth.edu and follow the instruc- tions you will receive in reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 May 94 14:20:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Fritz Sands Subject: FW: HOT FLASH: Dole Filibuster To: blammo@microsoft.com, libernet@Dartmouth.EDU Call, write, fax. Fritz The Honorable Robert Dole Hart Senate Office Building, Room 141 Washington, DC 02510 (202) 224-6521 (Voice) (202) 224-8952 (FAX) ---------- DATE/TIME: Fri, 5.20 @ 13:10 Source: Ron at the Marksman and John, the Sec. of WSLEFIA - WA STATE Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors Assoc. and a street cop (vs. desk driver) Ron and John have talked to Sen. Dole himself today in DC. Yes, the rumor is true. Veracity Index = 10, where 10 is true and 1 is a Clinton. Yes, he will filibuster the crime bill if he gets the support he needs. It takes 41 other senators, so also need to call Gorton, Murray. Both Gorton and Murray were fielding their own phone calls as of this message's time group. Call and perhaps you can talk to a live Sen. =========================================================== Dole phone for the filibuster call-ins: 202-224-6521 in DC The Gun Ban has got to go. The rest of the crime bill can stay. Do what it takes. =========================================================== jww From firearms-alert-owner Sat May 21 13:13:45 1994 Received: from localhost (chan@localhost) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) id NAA21830 for firearms-alert-outgoing; Sat, 21 May 1994 13:12:11 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA21824 for ; Sat, 21 May 1994 13:12:06 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.esl.com (gatekeeper.esl.com [129.193.146.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA13358 for ; Sat, 21 May 1994 13:12:06 -0700 Received: from smtp.esl.com (smtpout.esl.com) by gatekeeper.esl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19873; Sat, 21 May 94 13:10:16 PDT Message-Id: Date: 21 May 1994 13:08:21 -0700 From: "Johann Opitz" Subject: Dole's Kansas FAX & voice n To: "Firearms Alert" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0FC2 Sender: firearms-alert-owner@shell.portal.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO found on talk.politics.guns Once again: Sen Dole has NO public fax number in D.C. The numbers being tossed around (202)224-6721 & (202)224-8952 are no longer fax lines. His local offices say that faxes can be sent there and they will then be "relayed" to D.C. Numbers are: Topeka, KS (913)295-2745 voice (913)295-2748 fax Kansas City, KS (913)371-6108 voice (913)371-2403 fax -- |Dennis R. Conley, Computer Science Dept., University of Kansas (913)864-7372 | |conley@cs.ukans.edu conley@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu| == Johann Opitz e-mail: johann_opitz@smtp.esl.com == == All Disclaimers Apply (so as to protect my employer) == From conley@cs.ukans.edu Sun May 22 09:37:36 1994 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA13793 for ; Sun, 22 May 1994 09:37:35 -0700 Received: from cs.ukans.edu (mars.cs.ukans.edu [129.237.80.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA05022 for ; Sun, 22 May 1994 09:37:34 -0700 Date: Sun, 22 May 94 11:35:28 CDT From: "Dennis R. ( Random Orbit ) Conley" To: Jeff Chan Subject: Re: Dole fax #; thanks, but which to use? Message-ID: <9405221135.aa08912@cs.ukans.edu> Status: RO >Thanks a bunch for the info. Feel free to post this kind of stuff to >firearms-alert (see below for info). > >Got a question; I have a listing of congress I'm trying to maintain >including fax numbers. Got any ideas on which number is "better", >Topeka or KC? Hmmm, sorry I don't know. I guess I'd give a slight edge to Topeka, because that's the number that's listed ( if only one number is given ), and it's the one given first ( if both offices are given ). From gtenbor@california.sandia.gov Mon May 23 08:26:19 1994 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA29886 for ; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:26:17 -0700 Received: from california.sandia.gov ([146.246.250.1]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA12245 for ; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:26:17 -0700 Received: by california.sandia.gov (8.6.9/1.15) id IAA20377; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:24:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:24:59 -0700 From: gtenbor@california.sandia.gov (tenborg gerald) Message-Id: <199405231524.IAA20377@california.sandia.gov> To: chan@shell.portal.com Subject: Dole ?? Cc: tom.kelly@ebay.sun.com Status: R I just spoke with the Topeka KS. office 5/23/ 823 pst and she said that he currently does NOT plan to filabuster the crime bill because he doesn't know the contents BUT she did go on to say that if there is enough support to do so, he will go forward with a filabuster, so keep calling! thanks GDT